I want to know if Puggy even works or goes to school at all? Because I can’t place my finger on a justifiable approximation of the amount of time she has spent generating all these crazy shit.
What did I tell you? This is the miscreant Org that I was talking about. The one who believes the romantic poem in vol. 49 is spoken by Ichigo towards Oree. So hilarious! Within 24 hours of my last post, she has proven that IH fans, including herself, are aware of the poem being romantic.
Too bad she cannot accept it is Rukia whom Ichigo was referring to. Instead, she desperately tries to readjust her disharmonious cognitive in the most absurd fashion by interpreting it as a poem for Oree.
And linking vol. 41 to vol. 49 - just what the fuck? Who is on vol. 41 anyway?
Literally read this and was asking myself is this bitch even for real? There’s no one in their right mind who would actually believe that this poem is about Orihime is there?
Silly Orgs first it was Zangetsu now it’s Orihime you see the reason why people call you delusional is due to selective reading and the amount of inconsistencies in your laughable ‘theories’.
The poem is actually 'I wonder if I can keep up with the speed of the world without you' not 'if you are not in it' - Using your own idiotic translations to try help your own Origo pairing doesn’t help you you’ve got to realize that right?
Fact is Rukia was the significant person missing out of his life at that present time and Ichigo was down in the slumps without her.
So no matter how much you read ‘slowly' and try twist the story it won’t change what the actual canon shows.
Pugthrottle yet again shows why she is a typical Org…stupidity at it’s finest ladies and gentlemen.
And the canon has yet Ichigo expressing his missing of Rukia after he got his powers. I thought the idea of ‘IchiRuki’ volume poem 49 is that Ichigo really missed Rukia and not his shinigami powers?
This is the canon:: Ichigo didn’t miss Rukia SO VERY BAD, THAT HE LITERALLY CRIED IN HIS SLEEP in that 17 months. UEveryone including himself said…..he wanted back his powers to protect his friends badly. Even Rukia said in Matsubara’s novel that Ichigo is hurting because he felt powerless.
You are literally saying that Ichigo only sees Rukia as his means to gain his powers. That the Ichigo-Rukia bond is secondary to his powers. His family, friends and especially Ori are his top priority <3 and Rukia is only a tool for him to gain his powers to protect these important people, especially Ori <3. Rukia doesn’t mean much beyond that. Ohh Kubo is really telling us that, I see.
I got this from UnMasked databook. Don’t worry, I didn’t get it because I wanted to disprove IchiRuki, I was doing it mainly for my dear Orihime, I wanted to know more and more about her….and Renji. Remember how databooks always have preview of another arc to come? After Ichigo fought with Aizen and lost his power, and then the preview for fullbring arc??
After fighting with Aizen and lost his power, Ichigo became 3rd year high school student. With his classmate friends too, Ichigo lives a student life of harmony back in the time before he became a shinigami. Although, there is one difference from the past, in part of the corner of his heart, there are memories of Rukia-TACHI.
It would have been romantic if it’s in his heart he has a memory of her….but UnMasked said it’s Rukia-and friends. True right? Ichigo having vague recollection of also Byakuya and Renji in addition to Rukia?
Your question about how Ichigo sees Rukia as? Whether his bond with Rukia surpass more than his bond with other people in his world, whether he SAW her as a tool THAT ALLOWED HIM TO GET HIS shinigami power, or not……do you really need me to answer you?
Hahaha. You have been disproving IR for years, who are you kidding, Asam? Everything you have said all these years up to now is a blatant disregard for the IR bond. Lying about it isn’t going to help because you have been doing this for ALMOST TEN YEARS.
Your Japanese isn’t the most stellar, so I can only imagine the amount of time you spent frantically trying to translate and making sense of everything. You even fucked up the fundamentals by claiming that, “TOMO and TOMODACHI are DIFFERENT THINGS!” on MangaFox and in the same post, attempted to disprove IchiRuki because of this ignorant and grave misconception. Are you seriously okay?
So what if Ichigo thought of Rukia in addition to Byakuya and Renji? It’s obvious to anyone that Byakuya and Renji are not the same to him as Rukia is to him. Just because Rukia was mentioned along with the others in the databook does not diminish her role in Ichigo’s life, but you misunderstand and insisted this is the case.
Were Byakuya and Renji the ones who were directly implicated in the ‘Memories in the Rain’ theme? Did Ichigo say “Thanks to you Byakuya my rain has stopped” ? Were Renji and Byakuya the ones who said, “That’s the kind of man you are in my heart?” Oh Asam, you even tried to disprove this too! Saying naka is not heart. It’s inside. Inside what, inside my liver? My bladder? You don’t even understand how Japanese usually speak and how they use certain words. So what right do you have in trying to teach your fandom, or anyone, Japanese?
You are always manufacturing sandcastles of grandeur out of inconsequential debris.
You do this because you simply cannot find anything in the manga that logically supports the flow of the story, the progression of characters’ emotions in their growth of relationships with one another.
You frantically look for mythological tales and analyse constellation clusters beyond what is necessary because you desperately want to believe your pairing is valid somehow.
You desconstruct kanji characters because you misunderstand that Kubo meant the overall design of words instead of their inherent etymology.
If you weren’t that desperate and if you actually believe using the manga and other omake drawn up by Kubo as basis for your pairing, you wouldn’t need to do any of these things. Do you actually expect ME or anyone else to respect your opinions that were built upon such flimsy and unlikely sources?
You want to diminish Rukia’s role into someone who merely gave Ichigo powers, and wanted him to view her as such. She’s simply a means for him to protect his precious Oree, as you have always, always asserted all these years. Do you actually think this will change anything?
And this bit is really spectacular, let me tell you, because you seem to have no inkling whatsoever of what you have done.
You reject everything that was drawn and written by Kubo on the cover of the first databooks, reject everything else that was stated but which you DO NOT LIKE, for example Orihime’s relating her narrative of how Rukia is not simply a friend, not simply a comrade, but someone really important to Ichigo. You refused to accept it altogether, going so far as to exclaim that Ichigo was NOT looking at Rukia in ch213. In the same navigation, you conveniently and willingly outright misinterpret everything else in other databooks so you don’t have to accept the impending outcome that IchiOri is NOT happening. You will keep up with it as long as the manga is ongoing, because that itself gives you hope.
Asam why do you misunderstand things so much? Remember the time when you misunderstood your fellow IH fan? Who told you that the main point was not an excuse to retaliate against others but an actual retaliation but you took it as a phrase in verbatim? Why do you do that all the time? Do you have a condition? You don’t seem to understand a single thing people are saying. Forget strawmanning which your fandom is frequently guilty of doing, you are far, far verbose than any of them yet fail to deliver any content that proves your lucidity. What’s wrong with you? Why can’t you understand simple things? And why don’t you have any innate awareness of how hypocritical you are acting? Don’t even try to come up with a last minute victimisation of yourself, which I observe that you have loved to do recently with me. No one is a fucking victim here. You were the one who said you were going to be like Buddha and not bother with IR fans yet here you are, again and again. You have been working so hard to disprove IchiRuki all these ten years, in every single chapter, every single instance. Give me a break and stop acting like an innocent little lamb.
That’s all I have to say. I am not interested in continuing this conversation until you actually addressed what I asked of you: Tell me why, if Ichigo loves Oree so much, that it was actually the moment focusing on Rukia that caused his fullbring to spring to life. With a very prominent heart sticker, granted by Riruka’s ‘ability of love’, drawn on his cardigan in that panel.
All this long ‘essay’ is basically you accusing me of having poor grasp of Japanese language, therefore I cannot be a ‘trusted person’…..YET, YET, YET, YET….you did not make a single comment about how wrong I translated the small portion of UnMasked in regards to Ichigo’s HEART having Rukia-TACHI’s memories?
You’re not a reliable person when it comes to explaining Japanese language too. Remember when I said that there are some significant meanings when Kubo used kimi, anata, omae, ore in that IchigoxOrihimexRukia chapter 181 cover ‘And the Rain Had Left’….and you dismissed my words, quoting those female singers using male term…..but when the volume poem 49 came out…..you went gungho on showing how the ‘specific pronouns’ were specifically gender based. Then the word ‘Tsukkomu’ too….